At least not on the Augustinian distortions which my western brethren have been labouring under for the past 1500 years. And if the good doctor of Hippo hadn't done enough damage to the Roman Church, that Swiss fellow came along a thousand years later and dumped even heavier guilt trips on everyone. I think that if Christianity is ever going to be a religion for the modern world, it will be about two hundred years behind the philosophical times. Modernity is dead, thank God. Now maybe we can free ourselves from the tyranny of the merely rational and discover something of the grace and grandeur of God. But like I said, don't get me started on the paucity of the "modern" church... (And that's as close to triumphalism as I hope I ever get.) Dirk |