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Sins & Errors = Men Laying With Men


Submitted by Solid~Air on September 3 2001 22:46:39
In reply to Insane? submitted by Forgiven on September 2 2001 18:40:06

You wrote.. "

One of the concepts of the bible that we don't understand very much any more is the reference to being 'Slaves to Sin'. Since slavery has largely disappeared from the West (except perhaps in the lives of addicts - and that is a paradigm we should look at more) we don't understand what the bible is getting at most of the time when it talks about this."

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A definition of sin...

“However, are some things hard to understand, which the untaught and unsteady are twisting, as they do also the rest of the scriptures, to their own destruction.”

2Peter 3:14

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"Slaves to sin" means slaves to our errors. The errors of both religious and political doctrines were seen by the prophets as being the original sin. Meaning the men were listening to men.. rather than to God.

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Paul speaks of this hear.. unfortunately the dull have a tendency to believe that here paul is condemning homosexuality.. whereas he;s not.

. . .fornicators, men who lie with men, kidnappers, liars, false swearers, and whatever other thing is in opposition to the healthful teaching

1Timothy 1:10

Jesus explains the original "sin" of disobedience..or "error".. quiet clearly in the gospels of Matthew and Mark.

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In reply he said to them: ‘Why is it you also overstep the commandment of God because of your tradition? Isaiah aptly prophesied about you hypocrites, as it is written, ‘This people honour me with their lips, but their hearts are far removed from me. It is in vain that they keep worshiping me, because THEY TEACH AS DOCTRINES THE COMMANDS OF MEN. ' Letting go the commandment of God, you hold fast the tradition of men. Further, he went on to say to them: ‘Adroitly you set aside the commandment of God in order to retain your tradition.. and thus you make the word of God invalid by your tradition which you handed down. And many things similar to this you do.’

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Matthew 15:3 & Mark 7:6


And in Isaih you see the passage that inspired his words also...

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And God says: "For the reason that this people have come near with their mouth, and have glorified me merely with their lips, and they have remove their heart itself far away from me, AND THEIR FEAR TOWARDS ME BECOMES MEN’S COMMANDSMENTS THAT ARE BEING TAUGHT, therefore here I am, the One that will act wonderfully again with this people, in a wonderful manner and with something wonderful; and the wisdom of their wise men must perish, and the very understanding of their discreet men will conceal itself." Woe to those who are going very deep in concealing counsel from God himself, and whose deeds have occurred in a dark place, while they say: "Who is seeing us, and who is knowing of us?" THE PERVERSITY OF YOU MEN!

Isaiah 29:13


Solid~Air

Here's one more sin or error.. concerning religion..

Now I'm going to bed.....

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“For you know this first, that no prophecy of Scripture springs from any private interpretation. For prophesy was at no time brought by man's will, but men spoke from God as they were born along by holy spirit. However, there came to be false prophets among the people, as there will also be false teachers among you. These very ones will quitely bring in destructive sects and will disown even the owner that bought them, bringing speedy destruction upon themselves. Further more many will follow their acts of loose conduct, and on account of these the way of truth will be spoken of abusively. Also, with covetiveness they will exploit you with counterfeit words. But as for them, the judgment from of old is not moving slowly, and the destuction of them is not slumbering.”

2Peter 1:20




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