Christian Boylove Forum

Living in a Homosexual Dictatorship


Submitted by J on December 21 2001 06:46:23
In reply to Re: A short but better reply.... submitted by Chris on December 18 2001 17:11:21

Dear Chris,

I’m sorry to hear about this registration thing that you are on for ten years. I suppose my name is on some list somewhere, but there is no official registry where I live. I’m also sorry to hear about your experiences in the sex offender class but am glad to hear of some better experience with your one-on-one psychologist. Just be cautiously optimistic about his open-mindedness, okay?

I agree with the first point you made about adult/child sexual relationships, that regardless of the initial positive experience it can be for both parties, it should not be done in our society. Expanding upon that, at least where I think you are headed with it, is that irregardless of any initial positives, because of our societal structure (which has no place for BL), such relationships will result in pain for both parties.

While I agree that any sexual intercourse outside of marriage is sin, I would challenge you to expand the definition of marriage beyond that of the traditional legal sense. For example, suppose we found ourselves in a country that was run by a homosexual dictatorship, which outlawed all opposite sex marriages. Would it follow that a man and a woman could not lawfully (in God’s eyes) have sex? I would say they could indeed have sex provided they committed themselves in marriage before God.

With that said, where two people can legally be married, they should legally be married before engaging in sexual relations. Contemporary disregard for marriage by adult heterosexual couples is evidence for the lack of commitment that runs rampant in relationships. If two people are not married, it is very easy for them to split up and abandon the union when things get rough – it is this that God condemns.

Take for example, the marriage between Hosea and Gomer (cf. Hosea 1:3). After their marriage, Gomer proved unfaithful and committed adultery (cf. Hosea 3:1). God’s purpose in this sad union was to illustrate the adulterous ways of Israel in their relationship with God. Hosea is really an emotional book to read; at least it is for me. Since you don’t have access to a Bible while you are on-line at the library, in the postscript is one section that really moves me – God speaking of His great love for Israel.

Paul explicitly teaches that human marriage is a model for the union between ourselves and Christ (cf. Ephesians 5:31-32). Taken together with God’s model of adulterous Israel in Hosea, we can see the importance of commitment in marriage. Our union with Christ is to be marked by a radical commitment to our Lord, as Israel’s relationship to God was to be. But Israel turned its back on God, worshipped the Baals and committed spiritual adultery. In spite of their sin, God remained faithful and he instructed Hosea to do the same with Gomer (cf. Hosea 3:1-3) – what an awesome God we have!

In summary, the issue to me in regards to marriage is that of commitment. Where legal marriage is not an option, for homosexual couples and obviously BL couples, a commitment before God is equally valid in my opinion and sexual relations within that context are not sinful. With that said, I don’t in any way advocate BL sexual relationships in our society, but not for reasons of morality whatsoever. Hope this helps to explain where I’m coming from.

As it regards your Christmas story, I admit that when I first opened up the post and saw the opening words: “My name is T.J. and I am a 15 year old Boylover…” I closed it immediately and did not read it (because I will have nothing to do with anyone under 18 on-line). Later on, after I saw some discussion under the thread by yourself and Splash! I read those posts and then went back to the ‘story’ after realizing what it was. And indeed I do have some comments…

I don’t remember who it was who brought up the point that BL’s at the age of 15 don’t know they are BL’s at that time, and while I believe that holds true in the vast majority of cases, it does not in my case because of my very young and exclusive AOA (5-12). My early teens (13-15) were a very confusing time for me sexually as my attraction to my peers began to wane. Prior to this occurring I thought I was gay and when this decline in interest happened I thought perhaps it had been merely a phase and I would develop feelings for girls, but that never happened.

On top of this, I noticed that I was still very much attracted to younger boys and slowly realized that when I had been attracted to my peers (prior to age 13~14) I had never been attracted to adult men. All of these things together led to the awareness that I was neither gay nor ‘straight’, but a homosexual pedophile by the time I was 15. Despite society’s degrading use of the word ‘pedophile’ [Gk. ‘child lover’], I have used the term since that time to describe myself without any shame.

Your description of Nicky’s home life (beatings, drunken step-dad) is bringing back a whole flood of memories of my YF who got beat by his dad and occasionally by his mom. He also witnessed violence perpetrated on his mom by both his dad and following his dad’s imprisonment, some of his mom’s boyfriends. I remember one time when I was comforting him, he looked up at me with tears in his eyes and asked if he could come live with me. Having to tell him that wasn’t possible was one of the hardest things I’ve ever had to do.

Thinking about all of this is really getting me down. I’m getting angry with myself for not being able to help him through my own stupidity of crossing lines I shouldn’t have and winding up in prison myself. I’m getting angry with God for allowing my YF to go through so much pain. I’m getting angry at society for just being downright ignorant and uncaring. I’m angry and terribly sad that our story (my YF and mine) doesn’t have a happy ending and all the blame for that is mine. Sigh… enough of my pathetic story.

Your story has a happy ending and it is on that note that I’d like to end off on. BL’s have both an awesome responsibility to lead boys into a saving relationship with Jesus and the unique ability to connect with boys so that through us the Spirit may do His work in their lives. It is comforting to know that there are many BL’s who have not made the same mistake I did and are able to be there for the YF’s in their lives. God be praised for this.

I also read your comments about my posts with Splash! and I am glad that you have gotten something edifying out of them. Your posts and words of encouragement have helped me so much and for that I thank both you and God. I’m figuring that the library will be closed for several days over Christmas and New Year’s so I would like to take this opportunity to wish you a very Merry Christmas and a blessed New Year. I pray that God will keep you safe over the holidays and show you in many ways the awesome love He has for you. Take care, my friend.

Love in the Lord,
J

When Israel was a child, I loved him,
..and out of Egypt I called my son.
But the more I called Israel,
..the further they went from me.
They sacrificed to the Baals
..and they burned incense to images.
It was I who taught Ephraim to walk,
..taking them by the arms;
but they did not realize
..it was I who healed them.
I led them with cords of human kindness,
..with ties of love;
I lifted the yoke from their neck
..and bent down to feed them.
Hosea 11:1-4



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