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Re: Letting our light shine


Submitted by sally on March 25 2002 11:09:32
In reply to Letting our light shine submitted by Bach on March 25 2002 10:22:32

Bach I'm tired so you will get a short one. (Everyone breathes a sigh of relief. =0) And no one more than I, I've woken up two mornings in a row in the wee hours with pedophilia on the brain-- I'll take the rest of the day off and give you all a break)

So not everyone expresses things in the language you would prefer.

I'm not sure the language is my problem. I strongly believe that sinful desires are sin and we need to repent of them. I think that many on this board would agree with that when we are talking about those stray thoughts that fly into my mind unbidden, but when it comes to their own desires they just don't think they are all that bad.

Really we all live with ourselves and are used to ourselves and love ourselves and it is hard for us to think that anything we desire is all that bad. That is why we have to constantly be looking at Scripture to see what God, the only righteous One, considers bad. He has to be the judge of what is good and bad because he is the only one who knows. Let us constantly pray, "Search me and try me O Lord and see if there be any wicked way in me and lead me in the path everlasting."

I think you are right in assuming that BLs too often blame society for their problems. While society is a roadblock to understanding, true understanding can come from faith in God and the Word of God, along with the Christian community. But sometimes the Christian community is a roadblock itself.

agreed

I would urge you to marry and have kids. That is God's plan for men who don't want to be celibate.

I must say with certainty that this is not God's plan for me. If I were to marry a woman without any sexual attraction to her, that would be a lie to myself, God and my spouse. Not a pretty picture


Well up until about two years ago I would have agreed with you. I would not urge you to marry a woman who did know you had no attraction to her, even now. So the lying part would not be an issue. But I have become convinced (pretty much-- though it is open for debate with me) that if a man is convinced that God's plan for man is to marry a woman and have children... if he sees that he is burning with lust it matters not what the object of his lust his-- God tells him the marriage bed will ease that lust... then if he marries in obedience to that word from God, God will help him.

It is taking a big chance isn't it? But I see times in all of our lives when we are called to obey though it doesn't feel right to our flesh. And I've seen that when we do obey pretty soon our flesh comes into line with God. Whereas if we don't obey, we are constantly unhappy and at odds and unable to find rest and peace.

God loves us and will not allow us to just continue in disobedience unimpeded. The flip side is that at our first sign of obedience he comes right in and strengthens us. Have you not found this to be so in your life?

My spanker friend is the one who convinced me of this. We prayed and prayed for a year for God to give him a wife. Last year he got married. To a woman with a young son. He wanted a son not so he could abuse the child but so he could be a daddy.

The wife knows his struggles and the church knows his struggles and he is loved and supported. But he submitted to what he saw God's word to say and did not insist that his desire was not sinful. He was a kid with no father and a mentally ill mother who grew up being abused in boys homes. He did not choose to be a spanker. But he will not live as a spanker and he will not lie about it but neither will he let it define him.

well I carried on long even though I said I wouldn't.

sorry

I'm going to bed now and if I've been short with anyone please forgive me. I'm tired and sometimes when I'm tired I forget to tell people I'm arguing with that I like them. I think you are all nice people and my lectures and disagreements are not meant to say you aren't. I just think we disagree on whether certain desires are sinful or not. It's easy to see that the spanker sins but a little harder to see our own stuff as sinful... you know that even he would justify the spanking because he would never spank a child who hadn't done something wrong and didn't deserve the spanking...

OK good night.

Love in Christ
sally



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