Re: The nature of the 'gift of celibacy'
Submitted by sally on April 5 2002 16:46:45
In reply to Re: The nature of the 'gift of celibacy' submitted by Forgiven on April 5 2002 14:35:28
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Don't know about this one. Your exposition elsewhere of the way in which straight people adopt additional sexual orientations 'for kicks' perhaps answers this; I don't think people grow up to find that their only orientation is beastial, unlike those of us who grow up to find we are gay. BIG difference. Wow! You think you have not chosen your perversion but the guy who lusts after the animal has? Yikes! On what grounds would you base such a statement? That means you can look down on the donkey lover the same way most heterosexuals look down on you. Isn't that handy? I have a friend who absolutely cannot find anything exciting except the sight of a man's hand spanking a boy's bottom. Do you mean to tell me that he chose such bent tastes and he wanted to go to jail whereas you have not chosen yours? Give me a big fat break. He hates his perversion. He wants to be married (and is married now). He wants to be "normal" and happy and fulfilled. There is no difference between his sin and yours. He found his perversion early on... it had to do with being powerless in a boy's home as a little kid. But he was a little boy and he did not consciously decide to be a pervert when he grew up. For years he spanked and masturbated and then when he was in jail and thinking he should give it up, low and behold he could not do it. There is nothing else on earth that turns him on. He is repulsed by women. So take him... do you really think that his desire to spank boys for his own sexual gratification is not evil? And do you think that Jesus ever had such a desire and had to decide against it? It's the same energy that arises when you see a beautiful work of art. You smile, and feel better because of it. Now that CAN go beyond that and indulge in lust - or you can stop at that point. Does that make more sense?! If all you feel for a boy is the same thing I feel for a beautiful work of art then of course that is not sin. I have never had the urge to have sex with a work of art. In fact if all you feel for the boys is this then I am indeed a boylover-- and a girllover. I often gaze at both of my kids for minutes on end thinking about how adorable they are. They are the two must beautiful children in the world as far as I can tell. If that is all you think when you see a boy, "My God made a good looking one there," then go for it! Who on earth would tell you that was wrong? In some ways the story of your friend who discovered she was a lesbian when she 'fell in love' with a woman despite being married appears to offer some evidence against this claim..... She wasn't married. She'd been married and was divorced. My neighbor picked her up on the rebound. If she can change her desires why can't you? OK I'll read any response you give but I'll give you all another break for a few days before I answer... I'll be busily chewing on Jules' thing on Eve's fruit love... sally sally@paraklesis.com |
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