I can't disagree more
Submitted by Dakota on April 5 2002 17:27:13
In reply to Re: Stopping the attraction? submitted by sally on April 5 2002 12:15:05
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"And they can move to the place where they don't call themselves homosexuals anymore." If a person has ANY desire for someone of the same sex, they are at least partially homosexual. Some call that having homosexual tendancies. If someone has ANY desires for (let's call them less than sexually mature kids), then they are at least partially a pedophile. If you are recommending that people who are celibate call themselves heterosexual, or people that have fewer lustful thoughts about kids call themselves non-pedophiles, you are recommending that they lie to themselves. "I believe that it is possible for people to change their sexual preferences so that instead of PREFERRING boys, they would PREFER their wives." I disagree totally, and so do most psychiatrists. "Do you think that will take a miracle or do you think it will take sustained effort at taking every thought captive for Christ?" I think a pedophile has as much chance of changinging his orientation with a sustained effort as a blind man has of learning to see with a sustained effort. "What we prefer is a byproduct of how we think." Then why did Adam mate with Eve and not the scores of animals around? There was no one there to "teach" him who he should desire and what he should think. "We have bought into modern psychology's errant views on human sexuality." Modern psychology never communicated it's view that it would be cool to lust after kids. On the contrary, I was brought up to believe this was only desired by the lowest of the low. I was taught by society, parents, friends, televion, EVERYONE, that I should grow up, fall in love, and marry a nice woman. "Sex is in the mind." This is the only thing in your post I can agree with. But sex being in the mind doesn't mean it can be altered to the degree you are suggesting. Right and left handedness is also in the mind. "We can determine what will and won't move us." Totally disagree. Think of a sexual desire you are sure you have absolutely no interest in. Homosexuality, pedophilia, bestiality, whatever. Now can you honestly say to me that with "sustained effort" you could force yourself to desire it? And can you honestly say that with "sustained effort" you could force yourself to prefer anything over heterosexuality? This is not a rhetorical question. Please answer. "And sexual preference is just a habit." Disagree. I'm not trying to beat you up here with disagreements. I just wish you could acknowledge that we are doing the best we can with what we are. It's frustrating to hear you say "you can change, you can change, you can change, when I know I can't. Now I'm not saying my thoughts are under perfect submission to what God would want me to think on. I know I let sexual thoughts about boys stay in my mind longer than I should. It's something I have worked on for years, and I HAVE improved in this area. But no matter how much control I learn to have on my thoughts, I will never be a non-pedophile. The most I can hope for (barring a miracle from God) is to be a pedophile who dwells on the thoughts God would want me to dwell on. Sally, I've read all the scriptures many times. If you want to convince me I can change my sexual orientation, show me a few people who have. And if no one else has been able to do it, what makes you think it's possible? BTW. Although I disagree on this, I still like having you around to give us different viewpoints. Thanks for taking the time. Dakota |
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