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Re: Hypocrisy, and that part 'o my life I seldom..


Submitted by JohnDoe420 on May 1 2002 04:05:26
In reply to Hypocrisy submitted by Billy Budd on April 15 2002 10:31:17

...speak of in any way, shape, or form.

Disclaimer : you don't have to believe a single thing I believe. It's ordained directly inherent into individuality.

Where to begin...

...I hesitated coming here, once, so long ago, because I feared I'd horribly offend everyone in the most brutal possible manner. Last I checked, incidentally, sally didn't want to talk to me. :)

I'm a bit 'different' than the rest, shall we say...

My childhood was somewhat normal; given a bible, I read it, and it made quite a bit of sense. Given the option to go to church, I tried it and found it to be a rather useless exercise in human boredom. So, it was me, the bible, and God, and I was a good little Christian boy, denomination mine.

Then my parents sent me to Christian school. At 12, my last prayer was "I'm sorry, God, but I cannot condone the hatefulness Christianity demands..."

...and I up and became a happy little pagan.

-- ....seven years later... --

So, I'm minding my own business when God pops in and says "oh, btw - I just did everything up to and including human free will, y'know, everything you support. Don't blame *me* for the rest..."

oops.

great.

now I've no choice but to become one of those 'Christian' things. Luckily, I've managed to avoid the cultism of others, mostly - any errors I carry are my OWN, and I'm rather proud of that.

...years of learning followed. I'll skip it, so as to avoid being flamed off the board and banned :), save to say that it was shown to me whence human error come, and all evil is an attempt, at its heart, to promote good. Sad and ennobling at the same time, really - but reading the tale of the fall, I should have known... shame, et alli...

We war in defense of the greater truth, and in defense of our beliefs - and yet, both stand unassaliable; there exists no power which can dethrone the intrinsic soverignity of belief ordained unto an individual, and no belief, nor anything else, has power over whatever truth there be...

...it's all a tragic error...

...but, anyways, I'll stop spouting off that which was intended, apparently, for an audience of me; the disclaimer's up there, so I guess what's here is defensible...

Suffice to say, you're not alone. I rather like the term "antichristian" as a descriptor of what most of Christianity has, tragically, become. There are a few exceptions (that disclaimer's still up there, right?) - Dakota, for instance, I note as one who rather tends to live and act in accordance, though IMO is it a miracle as he stands burdened by every teaching someone decided to call 'the will of God,' such has not successfully cut God's will from his heart. (I *do* hope he can take that as the loving admiration it truly is... but, in the worst case, there's still that disclaimer above)... and even our dear sally, in her rush to speak of what is right in the sight of God (oh, but this life would be so, SO much easier if he just had a 1-800# where such things could be confirmed or denied) rather seems to have a decent handle on not... hmm... oh, dear... most phrasings I can think of would include some of what she *does* do, while attempting to adress what I commend her for not doing... I guess I'll suffice to say that, if she hasn't lain dehumanizing hatred aside, she has at least done a better job than many I've met...

...but I'm off track again. Yes, hypocracy is rampant - being the dominant religion has always attracted those who wish to give otherwise unacceptable beliefs a 'holier than thou' veneer - see, if you will, *most* of the New Testament. Furthermore, IMO, it is in light and recognition of this that I assert that most true Xians are usually satanist, atheist, wiccan, or agnostic, making the same mistake as I - confusing God with 'his' (I have seen no devine genitalia manifest, metaphor aside, and so cannot witness as to gender) 'followers.'

God never told me "go to church," though - quite possibly for the reasons of said hypocracy. While we're at it, God never told me that I had to say the RIGHT magic prayer to be 'saved.'

Mostly, God has politely suggested that I pull my head from my... err, the sand. ;)

...and, among other things, suggested that I examine my own hypocracy when, WHILST masturbating over fond rememberances of some neighbors I had known and loved (and had much mutual erotic tension with the elder, between about 5-7), I was simultaneously musing upon what I would do should I discover any 'pedophile' (believing the equivocation with 'rapist' at the time - I had already long supported the free will of each being unto itself, minority caste inclusive).

He did not, however, suggest I stop masturbating, nor that I fight against the orientation which 'He' ordained me to have, thereby enriching my life and the lives of others.

I rest assured on the basis of my past experience that, should 'he' wish to, 'he' will. :)

"I don’t know why I write this other than to say, I really want to attend church but I don’t want to associate with those considered virtuous because they aren’t."

:) What is church, when one lay aside those things of human manufacture? It cannot be a building, for such is made, and not by God. It cannot be hypocracy - type "scribe" or "pharisee" or "hypocrite" into any online bible to see the results. It cannot be the rites, for these are done by human hand with not one whit of divine intervention since creation - at least, those rites as most would recognize; I have seen marriage without human intervention, and the two did in fact become as one, quite protected by the grace of God at that. It is not the ordainment by humans, speaking human things from a position of human superiority.

Tearing down that which is solely human, a church would seem to be this earth we stand upon, as God ordained it, green and alive, and maybe some humans for company and philosophical discourse...

...oh yeah, and of course God.

These appear to be two things which no one can escape, let alone from outside attend. I must therefore ask that, as you are there already, with God in every moment and, most likely, on an earth whose role in this (save that, IMO, nature is a greater reflection of its Creator's wishes than asphault is of its creator's Creator's will)...

...what remains that you seek? Answer this question for yourself, and you will have thereby answered how it might be found without miring one's self in that which one's heart knows one must not join.


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