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Re: It seems...


Submitted by JohnDoe420 on 2002-09-6 07:36:54, Friday
In reply to Re: It seems... submitted by on


Thank you for sharing your fascinating life story (that sounds sarcastic -- it's not meant that way).

I have to say things like that to express myself sometimes... :) Thanks.

I must be very abnormally blessed in this regard, as thinking back over the Christians I have known, very few fit into the mold you describe.

I'm glad such has been your luck, and I'm glad they're there.

The Old Testament law is dead... it was replaced with rather a more difficult one, whose centerpiece, usually conveniently ignored, is indeed love your neighbor as yourself.

::sigh:: a tie-dyed longhair (no cite) with a sign which reads "anarchy of love. Peace." (Romans 13:8, 14:3,14 1 John 4:7 (and note 4:18, which illustrates... much... which is oft conveniently ignored), and further proof on this and still more heresy which I shall not speak here).

Rather a beautiful, loving thing to do, I believe...

There are a good number of other impossible regulations...

Romans 14:13-15,20-23, I believe - but no one would acknowledge such, that I have seen.

Here I have to disagree on a few points... believing orthodox Christian theology (if I wanted to start another debate I'd say Protestant, as I have a whole other set of issues with the alternatives; although I have some issues with classical Reformed too) is in no way counter to following Christ's example and life.

I view the forgetting of the last prior cited, in example, as a 'gateway drug' to phariseeism - but such is simply what my observations have forced me to believe.

As for freedom, I fear (based on this and on some of your earlier posts) that you have misunderstood Christian freedom... again, I could be reading too much in. As Paul says several times, it is freedom from, not to, sin. It is also not a mandate of a fully libertarian society

I fear I cannot find the analog I prefer (...for why should I be slandered for that which I give thanks..., in the whole 'but to the one who thinks it unclean, to them type series - truly passionate. Really gets to the heart of what it expresses...), but I'm rather fond of Romans 14:20 - All things are indeed clean, but it is not good to offend the belief of another. ...although, quite frankly how unreasonably far is a person going to take offense? Aye, if they are offended by cheese, I should not eat cheese in their face, in their house - but if they're raiding my private cheese cellar??!?!?!?!!

I'm sorry - I don't think someone should raid my cheese cellar for the sole purpouse of taking offense! If I trick a cheese-denouncer into eating cheese, that would definately be one thing - but breaking into my private cheese cellar for the sole purpouse of taking offense is quite another!

I would be happy to discuss this if you are willing and interested.

I would *love* to hear your views.

I have, many times. This is not to be confused with condoning or even allowing his behavior, but I have heard many who want to reach him with Christ's mercy and power.

I am amazed! Might I suggest that they might well embody this in this world, and allow basic human goodness to be, by focusing the child-abuse debate in a statistical 1:1 perspective? Virtually none of the incest offenders and 1:1 per-capita the non-familial offender is paederotic; statistics avaliable upon request - and that's just sexual. In reality over 90% of all child abuse and some grotesque multiple I could look up (I think it was approximately 20x) of the number of abductions are intrafamilial. In spite of this, abuse occurs in the sole alternative to intrafamilial abuse - the foster care system - at 5.25 times the per-capita rate, and fatalities from abuse at a little over 2 times the per-capita rate.

If people would stop with the 'bread and circuses' of our demonization, maybe something could be done about this - maybe someone would care about the problem of child abuse... maybe even enough to look into it, and do what seems neccesary from what's really there

Want cites? Name it; I've too many to go digging through at this hour.

Hard for the rich in anything, I think -- money, power, brains....

:)


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