Christian BoyLove Forum #59865
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Hm, I need you to clarify "Can you clarify whether she offers any objective evidence for the strength of gay relationships, or was she just impressed with the quality of the relationships that she saw?"
Are you asking me if she collected social science type data on the outcomes or benefits of gay relationships? Is this what you mean by "objective?" What type of objective evidence would impress you that gay relationships were not just being sentimentally conjectured as agape-filled? Maybe if you specify what would satisfy you, I can find it elsewhere. Sylvia herself was just a missionary, then a minister, not a professor. She credited the holy spirit with moving her to understand what she'd seen. If that sounds fearfully woolly, then maybe your religious background and hers are different enough to make a rapprochement difficult. Now, talking about divorce is totally irrelevant in the context of gay relationships. Totally. In a divorce, two people have got together in love and then they have begun to have disagreements, fall out, misunderstand each other, maybe abuse each other (though that may be one-sided). No matter which way you look at it, they have fallen short of building each other up in love in the way Jesus suggests in the Sermon on the Mount. I suppose in theory, even women who are beaten by their husbands could recognize the husbands as mentally disturbed, and (since the police and social agencies seem useless in such cases) round up enough big tough relatives or church members to intimidate the gorilla into behaving non-lethally. I mean, if divorce needs to be avoided at all costs, those cases of spousal violence need to be thought about too. Anyways, in a gay relationship, Jesus' ideals have not been let down. The people are absolutely doing the best they can with the loving talents God has given them, and they are fresh and new and sincere. Thank God they haven't faked their way into a heterosexual relationship they would not be able to uphold sincerely, thus causing a sincere woman the most unpleasant surprise of her life (even if it's only ... gee, he sure doesn't seem very enthusiastic about me in bed). They have remained truthtellers and have been noble in every way. But I am still surprised. What do YOU do about divorced people? I admit, I have never admonished a divorced person for being divorced. The traditional solution is to call the remarried woman a whore. Has anyone you known ever done that? Does one remain silent and just look down one's nose and mutter 'tut tut' inaudibly as they pass by? I think it's people's own matter to work out with our Lord if they find themselves divorcing, and only He knows, with all the facts in, how they will be judged in the end. Apart from the forgiveness in grace, I mean. I think we'd all like to read our report card before we get forgiven. I mean, we are all trying to do well here, that is, to do good here. |