Re: homosexuality
Submitted by Splash! on September 07 2000 01:19:08
In reply to homosexuality submitted by ChoirBoy on September 06 2000 19:32:32
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ChoirBoy, I understand many of the comments you make. I know that there are A LOT of similarites between wrongs/sins done by BOTH heterosexuals and homosexuals. Bottom line: people are selfish, no matter what their sexuality, and no matter what their theology. I'm reminded by this whenever I get in my car and drive through town. So many people are only concerned about themselves. I think of all the people that go to church on Sunday and they say, "Amen" to the pastor's sermon -- but where are all these people on Monday? Where did they go? I never see them. Where have all the Christians gone?! As I said in my earlier post, both sides of the homosexuality issue make a lot of good points, but neither side convinces me. All I have to go on is what God says, and that's what I have chosen for myself. If others want to choose different, I don't let it bother me too much. I can't make other people's choices for them. I haven't lived in their shoes. I just don't know what it's like. If they want to ask about my beliefs, I'll share them, but I won't force them. I try to be understanding of all types of people and the things they do. You said, "I couldn't help but see how your argument just doesn't hold up." Really, I don't have an argument on this issue, and I thought that was clear in my words. I don't mean to appear wimpy on this issue -- but this is one area that I just don't know enough. You pointed out that some things I said about homosexuals also apply to heterosexuals. I realize this. We're all human. How can we honestly believe that heterosexuals as a group are better people than homosexuals? Excuse me for the cliche, but it's like the pot calling the kettle black. Both sin. We all sin. What are we trying to do -- say one is better than the other because they commit lesser sins? And who's to define "lesser sins"? It's ridiculous. And what does this kind of argument matter if both are lost without Jesus? We need to point the way, not ridicule and judge. Jesus will take care of the rest. Get someone into prayer and Bible study, get them to have a relationship with the Lord, then they'll know what needs to be changed about themselves -- God will work on them Himself. You said, "Yet you don't find it inconceivable for heterosexuals to commit themselves to one person for the rest of their lives in marriage" as a way of suggesting that people *do* find it inconceivable for *homosexuals* to commit themselves to one person for the rest of their lives. *I* never said that I didn't think it was conceivable. I know it is. People are people no matter what their sexuality -- they all have the ability to love, and they all have the ability to be selfish. I understand this. Please don't take my questions in my last post as being things I believe in; otherwise, I would've made them statements and not questions. I put them in the form of a question because I really don't know. I was really just rambling on with different things I've heard and different thoughts I've had. I've heard stereotypes, but I have no way of knowing how much validity there is to these stereotypes. For example, percentage-wise, how is it possible to even keep statistics on homosexuals who have stable partners and those who are single and "fool around" with all kinds of people compared to heterosexuals that do the same? There's no marriage certificate to go by. And what's considered a stable partner? If less than a year, it was a dating relationship, and if more than a year, than a stable relationship? Many heterosexual couples live together for years before marrying, if they marry at all. How do we really know the truth on these issues? All I have to go by is God's Word, and for me, that's good enough. I feel like you kind of set me up so that you'd have a reason to state your own beliefs, but I'm just not the person you're going to be able to bounce your beliefs off of on this issue. I respect your beliefs, and the way that you state them, but I don't have an argument here. My first words were, "Frankly, I don't know." You said, "In fact, I would love to hear a convincing argument that will enable me to better accept your interpretation of scripture regarding homosexuality." I would love to also. But I know it's not going to come from me -- at least not at this time in my life. I'll just take the scripture (1 Cor 6:9) at face value, and speaking for myself, it makes some sense to me. I trust there's a reason for it. If you want to start a new thread for people to respond to, I think that would be a good idea, but if *I* have any argument at all, I've said it already and I have nothing left to say on this issue. Peace. ~Splash* |
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