Christian Boylove Forum

One assumption you seem to be making


Submitted by Forgiven on March 29 2002 16:15:59
In reply to Oh..well what is, then? submitted by sally on March 27 2002 22:36:56

is that sexual attraction is of the fallen world, rather than a part of the creation as God made it 'good'. I really don't think that there is really a justification for that - how would Adam and Eve fulfilled the command to 'go forth and multiply', which is given in Genesis cpt 1.

I must admit to a degree of unhelpful pleasure at your response to my suggestion about Jesus and John. Let me say again - I am NOT suggesting that anything inappropriate happened. I am saying that there might have been a sexual component to attraction that was a part of its depth and reality. And the fact that you were reacting so strongly suggests that you haven't really integrated your doctrine of the incarnation with the reality of innocent sexual attraction. Those of us who have to struggle with being BLs have to work these issues through a lot to construct a way that we can live with. There is an alternative - to live in absolute denial of the presence of a sexual element in the world at all - but it's not one that I believe is actually what is consistent with a proper understanding of the real nature of the creation.

If you do not have the gift of celibacy (and if you do I don't know why you'd consider yourself a boylover)

Hmm - now that's an interesting comment. What does it mean to 'have a gift of celibacy'. You appear to be implying that it would be the absence of any sexual desires. If you claim that the gift of celibacy is such an absence, then the next question is whether Jesus had it. If he did, then he wasn't 'tested as we were in every way, but without sin'. This doesn't work. So he must have lived a life where his sexuality was not expressed in wrong ways. That is therefore possible (he was fully man and we can live to that standard). My own belief - backed by the comments of celibates whom I've had contact with - is that the sexual attraction is still there - but you learn to live with....

I am a BL because my main 'target' of attraction is males far younger than me. Given that reality - and that I have to cope with that reality in my life and have to learn to cope with the hostility of the world and the lack of comprehension of most other Christians - I have found a real 'home' here at CBF where we are all struggling with the issue. I don't know if you've got contact with other people who have quadraplegic spouses; if so you may know what I mean about being able to share issues that are totally outside the comprehension of most people. It helps A LOT to have these online friends!


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