Christian Boylove Forum

When hearts are covered by a veil


Submitted by J on 2002-10-16 02:16:27, Wednesday
In reply to Was Jesus A Boylover? Use Marijuana? Real? submitted by Pondering on 2002-10-15 22:15:56, Tuesday


Lots of information on the web folks about Jesus not exactly being “sinless”. What do you think?

Same silly accusations, different media – Jesus’ adversaries accused Him of all sorts of ridiculous things during His earthly ministry, why would people today be any different?

Does this undermine your belief in him as God-man?

No, should it?

Are you PROUDER to be a boylover now that you’ve read this?

I take humble pride in things I accomplish so since I never became or achieved being a boylover, your query to me is a complex question fallacy. Conversely, however, I’m not ashamed of being a boylover and nothing you or anyone else could ever say or post will change that.

It seems though that the only one you can trust is yourself.

Bad advice – trusting only in oneself would negate trusting in Jesus, that’s not a position I would advise anybody to take.

I know MY heart and I’m NO hypocrite.

And God knows your heart better than you do, the question isn’t really how well you know yourself but rather if God knows you when you stand before Him in judgment.

I love all children unconditionally and marijuana, too.

Yet nowhere in your post do I read that you love God, nor do I find any unequivocal statement that would lead me to believe you are a Christian. I have no problems with you loving marijuana or anything else, so long as you have no other gods besides God and you seek to love Him with all your heart, mind and soul. If you set your mind upon following God, some of the things you have long felt were important suddenly cease to be so important and you may see more clearly if they are harmful or not in your best interest to persist in.

Jesus has his catamites… He even depravedly uses his hypnotic abilities in order to make heterosexuals subservient homosexual slaves to himself – and in one case he will drive one of his disciples (John) to commit suicide… he psychically raped that male to be sexually subservient to him.

Outlandish accusations in direct conflict with Scripture that states Jesus was tempted in all ways as we are, but did not sin. It really doesn’t get any more complicated than that.

The Acts of Thomas (and) the Acts of Peter and the Twelve Apostles.

An appeal to New Testament pseudopigraphic works that betray themselves as inauthentic and fanciful writings reveals an underlying rejection of what the Bible says – perhaps building a biblical case would be more productive and making some sort of reasonable connection between the ‘oil’ of Mark 6:13 and cannabis (the word used there for oil, incidentally, is elaion, literally ‘olive oil’, derived from the word for olives and olive trees, used in describing the Mount of Olives in all four gospels).

The earliest gospel is thought to have been recorded about 60 years after the crucifixion, and such a text cannot be regarded as an accurate historical account.

That would be about A.D. 90 and that contradicts sound analysis of the relationship between the synoptic gospels and internal data dating them before the war with Rome that ended with the destruction of Jerusalem and the Temple in A.D. 70. Evidence demonstrates that both Matthew and Luke used Mark and a collection of Jesus’ sayings in Aramaic, the earliest gospel (Mark) is dated shortly before A.D. 60 so the sixty years you cite is actually thirty years. The collection of sayings in Aramaic was likely penned long before this so the myth hypothesis holds no water, there is a great deal of evidence supporting the historicity of the New Testament gospels if you are willing to examine it objectively.

A tremendous volume of literature demonstrates, logically and intelligently, time and again that Jesus Christ is a mythological character.

I don’t know about you, but I wouldn’t allow myself to be tortured and martyred for someone I knew I had invented and was a mythological character – yet that’s what you must assume the apostles and early Christians did since they all claimed to have known personally or seen this Jesus. This belief fails all basic tests of logical plausibility.

I didn’t create these sites and don’t want to start a flame war here.

I doubt very seriously any regular poster here is going to start a flame war over you posting information from some websites, though I must sincerely ask, why are you here posting this material? To start a discussion, to justify use of marijuana, to try and convince us Jesus was a homosexual, to try and convince us Jesus didn’t even exist or that the Bible is a hoax, or just simply to ponder out loud?

J

Come away, O human child,
to the waters of the wild,
with a fairy hand in hand,
for the world’s more full of weeping
than you can understand.



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