With that way of thinking, it's just giving nonbelievers even...more of a reason to stay non believers. If someones poverty is set and determined, with no chance outcome. Well that doesn't really give anyone any hope at all. I believe there is a set way that God intended us to live - and we have a choice to embrace it, let it sit passively or run away from it. God leads and guides, but he does not control in any way. That's the problem I have with predestination. It inspires laziness. If everyone's fate is sealed, I'm not going to waste my time trying to change it. God is here and He's made Himself clear, that all who believe in his Son - will be saved in the end. Not all who are destined to believe. Which is what I mean. I don't believe that their relationship is 'pre destined' whether God knows the outcome or not. She has a choice - they both do. If not - i think WE are the pawns.