I agree with jm...
Submitted by F.O.D. on May 16 1999 at 18:04:04
In reply to Re: got a question... Submitted by jm on May 16 1999 at 08:43:40
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sort of... hehe. Mental: You cannot love a boy in a long term relationship because a little boy will grow up into a man and then you being a boylover will have to find another little boy to love. So, by definition you are entering into a relationship that is temporary, transitory, and based solely on your selfish needs. Thus giving lie to your desire to love boys. One question to ask, then, is how true is jm's criticism here? Scott, you said "i do not mean one night stands, but rather a relastionship where both parties agree and are committed to one another, in a long-term way." What do you mean by long-term? Until the boy finds himself a girl? Or "until death us do part"? I always maintain that the place of sex is in a life-time bond, that it's intended as the expression of a love that has vowed to stick with it through and through. And here's the verse that you haven't thought of yet ;) ... If a man seduces a virgin who is not pledged to be married and sleeps with her, he must pay the bride-price, and she shall be his wife Ex 22:16 What this verse tells me is that sex and marriage are inextricably bound, that it's out of place to have sex without the lifelong vow of commitment being there. This is the verse that for me gives meaning to that funny word "fornication" that we sometimes meet in the New Testament, showing that we should beware of premarital sex. Is this what you're meaning by "long-term relationship"? If not, then I propose that the ultimate effect is much the same as a one-night stand, just over a longer period of time. ie you're expressing through sex that you have a lifelong love, when you don't have it at all. This argument will only make sense if you agree that that is what sex is about. How do you understand sex in and of itself? I see sex as the sharing of souls, and if you have sex with heaps of different people, it's like you're splintering your soul amongst them all. I'd be interested to hear what you make of this imagery. (I'm not getting you depressed am I?) If you are talking about a lifelong commitment, then the only thing really against a "boylove relationship" is whether the boy is honestly able to make this kind of commitment for the rest of his life. Could you have done so at 12? In just the same sort of way we would advise a boy and a girl, suppose they are 15 or whatever, and love each other completely, to hold off sex and marriage till they've grown older. If you're talking about a lifelong love, you can wait a couple of years. I guess I see "spiritual" reasons as bound up with "personal" ones, you see. Of course if it is true that same-gender sex (homosexuality) is plain wrong, then all bets are off ;) (and I can't see how that could have anything but a spiritual reason). F.O.D. pontificating again. Remind me of what I said here when I need it, huh? |