I just realized why that sounded familiar! Last evening I was browsing through a book I just picked up recently by J. F. Rutherford called "Reconciliation." He argues that Colossians 1:15-17 "clearly show[s] the distinction between God, the great First Cause, and the Logos, the beginning of the creation of the great Creator" (page 108). If the Word of God is not the Creator, he must be a creature. And yet the Bible states quite clearly that he created all things that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. If you can think of any created being that isn't covered in that description, you're on the short list for next year's Nobel prize for physics, my friend! :^) Either he's the creator or a creation, right? So which is he? And before you answer, read through Hebrews 1:10-12 where it's clearly referring to the Son, and compare it with Psalm 102:25-27 and Zechariah 12:1. Dirk |