Re: For Splash!
Submitted by Splash! on March 13 2002 13:19:37
In reply to For Splash! submitted by Bach on March 13 2002 08:43:43
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It is my understanding that the relationship with the woman was sexual, and outside of the covenant of marriage. How do you see that relationship, and how does "sin" get defined in it? As well, how does that compare to adult-adult homosexual relationships which are covenanted, and then apply the same criteria to boylove, adult-minor relationships. Is the theology in the same paradigm? Thanks for your reply, Bach. It's good that you ask these questions. I don't want to come across as a hypocrite or someone who justifies some actions but not others within the same paradigm. Plus, these questions help us examine WHY we believe what we believe, and that we don't believe these things just because someone (or some group) said it's the right way to believe. Right now, I'm on my way out the door, so I can't spend much time with this now, but I'll say a few things before I go. Where does marriage begin? We often say "covenant of marriage" but the law requires a contract. I believe that I entered a covenant of marriage with the woman -- we bought a home, we bought cars, we shared a joint checking account, we took care of each other, we acted as a married couple when dealing with the kids' teachers, doctors, and our friends and family, we knew we were going to get married contractually, we made plans for it, but we kept pushing the date further and further back because we both led very busy lives. Ultimately, I left her before we signed a marriage contract. But isn't this similar to homosexual relationships? Two partners feel justified when entering into a sexual relationship without a marriage contract because they've already made some kind of covenant or promise to each other. Where sin entered into my heterosexual relationship was when we started messing around with each other sexually before really knowing that we wanted to spend our lives with each other -- and before we lived together. After we moved in together, one of my Christian friends kept asking, "So, when are you two going to get married?" A LOT of people believe that living together without a marriage contract is sin (whether it be a heterosexual or homosexual relationship). I know I've only touched the surface (I see a couple holes I haven't covered), and I would like to get deeper into this, but my time is short for now. How does this "covenant" argument fit into an adult-minor relationship? Like I said in my earlier post, I believe the good that can come out of a nonsexual adult-minor relationship far outweighs any good that can come out of a sexual adult-minor relationship, no matter if BOTH want to be sexual with each other. I don't believe that a minor can know what he/she wants out a sexual relationship or know what to expect out of a sexual relationship since minors don't have the information or experience to make that type of "covenant" decision. And I'm having a hard time seeing how covenanted sex between an adult couple comes close to being the same type of sex between an adult and a minor. For a child, it can cause much more harm than good (as explained in my earlier post). Well, I gotta go. I wasn't able to say as much I as I'd like to, so I'll have to return to this later. Splash |
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