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transmission of sin

Submitted by F.O.D. on April 09 1999 at 14:50:28
In reply to Guilt? Submitted by Andy on April 09 1999 at 13:01:43


[p.s. (pre-script) I think you meant v10 in Jas 2]

Andy, you touched briefly on the nature of the source of our inherent sinfulness, compared to the nature of the source of Jesus' inherent sinlessness.

That fits in with a discussion Ray was holding below the other week, reading from Romans 5 about "death through the one man Adam, life through the one man Jesus" (Ray was describing the unity of Gen 1-11). I was meaning to get back to that and this seems a good place to continue.

So, the Bible tells us that death (ie sin) came to us through one man, Adam (Rom 5:12, 1 Cor 15:22). Hence we have what I believe is the usual interpretation of the consequences of Adam's sin, that it changed the order of creation in such a way that his sin is transferred to us, his descendents. Ray objected to the idea that Adam is ultimately responsible for all sin. I agree to a point, because it is hard to understand why I should be held accountable for what my father did But Ray better explain some more what he means, since nevertheless the statement remains "in Adam all die".

Now Andy, your suggestion is that sin and transferred via the soul from father to son when a new being is conceived. Would you care to expand this thought some more and indicate what leads you to think that way?

Actually, the explanation that I've heard, about why we bear the consequences of Adam's sin, is more of a socio-cultural one. That's mainly why it doesn't make sense to Western minds with their philosophy of individualism. Eastern cultures seem to have more of a concept of "Family". That is, the whole extended family is responsible for the behaviour of it's members, and when one member does wrong, the whole Family is shamed. The best western example I can think of off-hand is "Romeo and Julien", where the two families are at war for some old forgotten offence, but the family continues in an attitude of offence. When one son is insulted (or killed), the whole family considers the whole of the other family guilty, and so they have battles between each other. (interesting how the war is only ceased by an act of forgiveness and reconciliation between the heads of the two families).

F.O.D.



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