Re: Does it really stop there?
Submitted by Comfort on October 19 2000 17:25:35
In reply to Re: Does it really stop there? submitted by Dannyboy on October 19 2000 13:23:08
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'to have sexual thoughts is not a sin' To have them enter your mind, no. But what was Jesus talking about when he said, "To even look at a woman to lust after her is sin" - so you are saying he was NOT talking about thoughts? I think he was pointing out that to feed improper sexual thoughts (for anyone but your spouse) and encourage them is wrong and sin - how else can we interpret that? 'It's just a case of learning to control them' Agreed - as well as controlling how long we dwell on them - as soon as they enter your mind, you can choose to reject them, you know. Change the channel. 'I wouldn't be human if my feelings [for boys] were not sexual in nature as well' So this is supposed to mean that it is spiritually healthy to fantasize about intimate sexual contact with boys? "Because I do it, therefore it must be OK" Does God have any desire for holiness in our thoughts? 'Again, it just comes down to accepting what you are...' We are all born in sin - does that mean we accept it? What do you mean 'what we are'? - you say that as if you believe that fantasizing about boys sexually is a part of our God-given identity. What thoughts we choose to dwell on are part of who we are that we must accept? What about those who get sexual pleasure out of thinking about raping and killing, or who get intellectual pleasure about thinking of how much they hate God? Do those thoughts therefore form part of their identity, and those people should 'accept' themselves, understand who they are, and make the best of a bad job? Or should those people maybe stop fantasizing about killing and raping people, should others stop thinking about hating God, should others stop fantasizing about sexual contact with boys? Is that really asking two much? Should they not even confess it as sin and ask forgiveness - or just accept it? Why can't you spend the rest of your life with a 'regular partner'? You can with a wife. Is it not true that God can do anything? Why do you insist he does not have the ability to 'restore your soul' as spoken of in Psalm 23? Why cannot God make good on his word and change homosexuals like described in 1 Corinthians 6:9 - "and such WERE some of you, BUT you were WASHED..." - they were no longer homosexuals or boys who had sex with men - they had been washed. God can change you. Why insist that it is not possible, that you must remain in a state of fantasizing sexually about boys, and just 'give in' - 'accept it' - you 'cannot ever change anyway'. Not true. God can do anything if we will allow him. You can cope with it - "I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me." Is this not true? God can do it. God can do anything - Come on, HE'S GOD! It's us who don't want to change. We are the ones who want to continue on doing what we are doing, because in our lazy selfishness we do not want to simply do what is right. God loves us enough to want to change us! |
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