Christian Boylove Forum

Lust and Sexual Fantasy


Submitted by J on 2002-11-2 05:28:59, Saturday
In reply to On Lust submitted by Drifter on 2002-10-31 09:41:00, Thursday


I am assuming that masturbation is accompanied by sexual thoughts.

So am I (neither of us without good reason) – the only difference is I don’t equate sexual thoughts with lust or (my original point) equating the act of masturbating with the thoughts that accompany it.

I’m not equating any sort of sexual desire with lust. I did not say that people need to shut off their sexual desires until marriage.

I’m aware you never stated such in your post but it would seem you may as well have since your position is that sexual thoughts equals lust and sexual desire is directly linked to sexual thoughts – one follows the other in a chain and outside focused intervention they occur together naturally. If your position is that all sexual thought is lust, then would it not be advantageous to eliminate or curb the desire that leads to it? What would you propose I do when I see a really cute boy strolling though the park, fireworks are going off in my head and he has literally taken my breath away?

You asked me what I think lust is… Lust would be mentally undressing that boy and envisioning us having passionate but uncommitted sex on the nearby park bench. What lust is not (at least not to me) is to enjoy his beauty and thank God for it, to imagine what it would be like to be with him as a friend and lover, to fantasize about passionate sex with him within those parameters. I see this as conforming to the pattern God has established for sexual relations and a healthy channeling of natural sexual desire that needs to go somewhere, not be suppressed.

If you had read the bible verses that I provided in my post…

I read every single one of them, assuming I didn’t indicates you feel your position is beyond contestation and/or that I’m ignorant of what the Bible says (neither of which are true). Incidentally, the passage you cited from Matthew 5:28 is talking about and is found within a broader context of adultery and Jesus was addressing those married people who felt it was perfectly acceptable to lust after those people who were not their spouse and escape violating the law laid down in Exodus 20:14 and Deuteronomy 5:18. I’m not married ergo I cannot commit adultery, but I can still heed His warning about sexual sin beginning with the harboring of lustful thoughts by way of principle. Unlike you, however, I distinguish between lustful and non-lustful sexual fantasy.

In Christ,
J

Come away, O human child,
to the waters of the wild,
with a fairy hand in hand,
for the world’s more full of weeping
than you can understand.



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