homosexuality

Splash, Thanks for your reply. There seems to be no limit to your life experience. I never would have guessed you had also been involved in a gay relationship. Still, I am less convinced by your argument in this case than I usually am. While I acknowledge that you used many hypotheticals and voiced many personal opinions/observations in your post, I couldn't help but see how your argument just doesn't hold up. Here's an example. You say: Homosexuality does seem selfish to me. How can a man pleasure another man the way he can pleasure a woman? Is he involved in the relationship merely because of his attraction and wanting to find sexual fulfillment based on that attraction? A lot of single heterosexual men do this also -- and this is called "adultery." In this same way, heterosexuality is also selfish. It is usually the case during heterosexual intercourse that both partners are not equally satisfied. Homosexuals can pleasure each other just as well as heterosexuals, just in a different fashion. Another quote: The Bible seems to make it clear that sexual relations are only okay when they occur between two committed people (man and woman). How many homosexuals are committed to each other? I see homosexuals flaunt their sexuality on television talk shows and in gay parades. I'd hate to think that they are representative of homosexuals as a group. I see them kissing many different men -- not just one. I see them talking about having many partners -- not just one. How many gay men truly love one person enough to want to be with them their whole life and not have sex with any other man? This is blatently stereotypical. The numbers of heterosexual people who are promiscuous with people other than their spouses are far greater than homosexual people. Heterosexuals far outnumber homosexuals in the first place, and look at the number of divorces, affairs, broken families, sexually-transmitted diseases and the like among heterosexuals. Yet you don't find it inconceivable for heterosexuals to commit themselves to one person for the rest of their lives in marriage. In fact, it is even sanctioned in the Bible. But homosexual couples, even if they are committed, do not have the security of marriage to help cement the bond. Look at the number of heterosexual couples who live together without being married. How many of them stay with each other for the rest of their lives? I think that is partially due to the fact that the bond of marriage is not present in those relationships and there is no sense of obligation between the partners. Since there is no recognized gay marriage, all homosexual relationships lack that bond. And yet a third quote: There's a few different examples in the Bible of homosexuals going after other men -- I mean, really going after them (God's own people) against the other person's wishes. Is it like a sex addiction or something? Why do some homosexuals feel they have to "come out" and say, "I'm homosexual." Does that define who they are? Is that what they want to be known for above all else? Why should it matter to anyone else besides the one they love? Why do they feel the need to be accepted for who they are in bed? Many homosexuals come out because they are sick of living their lives as a secret. They have the same feelings that I would suspect many of the boylovers on this board do. They just want to be accepted for who they are and to be recognized as just normal people and not be prejudiced or discriminated against. It just so happens that many of the most public professions of homosexual orientation come from those homosexuals who are the most militant about being accepted. Perhaps due to the militant side of themselves, these are also often the most promiscuous and the least likely to have monogomous sexual relationships. Just think of the hippies and social revolutionaries in the sixties and how promiscuous their sexual relationships were. The fact is that many people would be treated very differently if other people knew they were gay, just as many boylovers would be treated very differently if other people knew they were attracted to boys. The full stigma that is attached to pedophilia in modern culture was extened to homosexuality as recently as 10-20 years ago. People who were discovered to be gay were no longer trusted around children, around their male friends (not lovers), and in churches. Even today, just look at the extreme reaction of the Boy Scouts of America upon the discovery that one of its Eagle Scouts was gay. (While I bring this up as an example, let it be known that I agree with the Supreme Court decision upholding the BSA's right to exclude gays as a private organization. However, I don't think the BSA was morally right in what it did, even if it was and should be legal). I didn't mean for this to sound like an attack, Splash, because it's not, but I felt I needed to respond. I agree that your homosexual relationship was not a positive or healthy one for many reasons. However, I don't think your negative experience negates the validity of homosexuality as a whole nor indicates that homosexuality is immoral. And I'm really not dead-set in my mind to think this way. In fact, I would love to hear a convincing argument that will enable me to better accept your interpretation of scripture regarding homosexuality. However, I have yet to hear one, and I remain unconvinced that homosexuality by itself is a sin. Promiscuity, yes. Adultery, yes. Lust, yes. But I belive that it IS possible for two homosexual people to have a loving, monogomous relationship, even if marriage between them is not recognized. Just as possible as it is for two heterosexual people, anyway. God bless, ChoirBoy