Christian Boylove Forum

pathologically gay


Submitted by F.O.D. on December 02 2000 01:03:11

Continuing a discussion with Forgiven about how we read the Bible and how what we read in the Bible relates to our life, I think we got to a kind of understanding.
It seems to me that if homosexuality is sinful, then it must be so not because of some arbitrary "because I said so", but because it truly does have a negative effect on day-to-day relationships (if it doesn't directly affect one's relationship with God).
Forgiven, if I properly understood you, agrees with this, and asserts that, yes, homosexuality is "inherently disordered". Or, in the way I like to express it, it represents a pathology in a person's human relationships, and therefore conflicts with the Second Commandment to "love your neighbour as yourself".

I'd like to spend a bit more time exploring this statement for the extent for its truthfulness, apologising in advance for any emotional fatigue this kind of discussion can bring.

The point that I guess concerns me, is that the statement that gay relationships are inherently disordered seems to be in denial of those relationships which committed to themselves and their community and church. If all gay relationships are destructive (a paraphrase of being "inherently disordered"), then what do you make of those relationships that are, in fact, constructive?

Let me try to explain the context that I'm trying to get across. Forgiven, you spoke relative to your own experience as a BLer, that you've noticed the destruction your desires could lead to (. I agree with that, about how destructive your desires could be (joke ;) laugh now) I mean, I acknowledge in my own life how the sexual attraction tends to make me feel obsessive or something about a friendship, in the way I fall in love with all of my close friends, especially (but not exclusively) younger friends, wanting to be with them all the time, in short becoming emotionally dependent on them, without giving them space to breath. But while I acknowledge my own inadequacies or emotional pathologies, I question the assertion that those pathologies are strictly gender related. Put it this way, straight guys have these same sorts of problems with girls, there's even the saying "women, can't live with 'em, can't live without 'em". Furthermore, as I already said, there are those gay couples who commit
themselves to each other and build up other people in their community and church, who aren't just chasing after the next orgasm with the latest sexy thing.

In short, I'm trying to distinguish between the vagaries of any one person's human experience, and the principles of godly relationships. While you've found something to criticise in your relationships with young guys, and I've found something to criticise in mine, is yours or mine experience the arbiter of Right? That is, does a negative personal experience negate the possibility of existence of a healthy, godly, gay relationship?

Fod



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