'hello Mom' - not waving but drowning.

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'hello Mom' - not waving but drowning.

Submitted by frank on February 14 2002 08:18:12

FOR A PARENT WHOSE SON OR DAUGHTER COMES OUT

Lord, i do not always find it easy
To accept that my child is gay
So many strong and harsh opinions are expressed.

Be with me in my confusion
When the world changes
Our children defy convention
And find new ways of expressing their love.

Help us to find faith in the challenge before us.
And grace to discover together the meaning of love.

AMEN
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above is part of a new prayer book produced by the methodist church whch has provoked an angry reaction from traditionalists.

colin hart, of the christian institute, says john and charles wesley "will be turning in their graves".

the new liturgy for modern family difficulties - called Vows and Partings - includes prayers for lone parents, victims of domestic violence and oouples being divorced.

according to the daily mail - feb 7 - methodists have been turning to increasingly radical ideas to reverse declining congregations.

the mail says : 350,000 remaining methodists remaining in britain have been told they no longer need believe in God, and prayers include feminist appeals to "Our Mother".

[eh?!]

Follow ups:

Dunno about you all, but... - Altima February 14 2002 09:26:57 (61)
- It depends what the subtext is - Forgiven February 14 2002 14:22:01 (60)
  - I'm a little confused here... - Babel-17 February 14 2002 21:33:34 (2)
    - The summary of Jesus's message - Forgiven February 15 2002 02:20:29 (1)
      - wellllll......(: - Babel-17 February 15 2002 14:01:25 (0)
  - Over-reactions galore... - Altima February 14 2002 20:34:09 (42)
    - Listen, dawg - Rahiim February 14 2002 21:10:08 (30)
      - I've listened. - Altima February 14 2002 21:27:55 (29)
        
        Who could love? - A.I. Watcher February 14 2002 21:29:53 (28)
        
        Re: Who could love? - Altima February 14 2002 21:38:25 (16)
        
        Fuck that hypocritical bullshit - A.I. Watcher February 14 2002 21:45:11 (0)
        
        It is MORALLY OK! - Rahiim February 14 2002 21:44:32 (14)
        
        Really? - Altima February 14 2002 21:51:17 (12)
        
        Yes, really - A.I. Watcher February 14 2002 21:55:14 (11)
        
        Really really? - Altima February 14 2002 22:02:01 (10)
        
        You're just vile - A.I. Watcher February 14 2002 22:05:00 (9)
        
        Yes, I am vile, I'm human, just as you are. - Altima February 14 2002 22:11:14 (8)
        
        I didn't know anyone could be that disgusting - A.I. Watcher February 14 2002 22:14:50 (7)
        
        I didn't know anyone could misread that - Altima February 14 2002 22:18:11 (6)
        
        What the fuck are you talking about? - A.I. Watcher February 14 2002 22:21:52 (5)
        
        Fine, fine fine - Altima February 14 2002 22:25:17 (4)
        
        Then fuck you - A.I. Watcher February 14 2002 22:29:03 (3)
        
        I'm glad we're all so reasonable here - Altima February 14 2002 22:33:00 (2)
        
        Look Mr Japanese Car, - Rahiim February 14 2002 23:07:57 (0)
        
        I'm not slandering you - A.I. Watcher February 14 2002 22:34:41 (0)
        
        Exactly - A.I. Watcher February 14 2002 21:47:18 (0)
        
        it's just like Jesus said to the Pharisees.. - Babel-17 February 14 2002 21:38:13 (10)
        
        Indeed - A.I. Watcher February 14 2002 21:44:07 (9)
        
        what a wonderful story!! - Babel-17 February 14 2002 22:02:02 (8)
        
        Yeah, it's kinda cool - A.I. Watcher February 14 2002 22:06:23 (7)
        
        I find it very encouraging... - Babel-17 February 14 2002 22:43:19 (6)
        
        That was HIS brother, btw - A.I. Watcher February 14 2002 22:51:26 (5)
        
        LOL! I'll get this right yet! - Babel-17 February 14 2002 23:08:05 (4)
        
        Cool - A.I. Watcher February 14 2002 23:16:25 (3)
        
        I'm *really* starting to like your dad here! (: - Babel-17 February 14 2002 23:34:43 (2)
        
        My mother always used to say ... - A.I. Watcher February 14 2002 23:37:50 (1)
        
        we're the products of our times... - Babel-17 February 15 2002 00:01:01 (0)
    - Oh, bullshit - A.I. Watcher February 14 2002 20:39:14 (10)
      - It's a shame - Dakota February 14 2002 21:02:04 (9)
        
        Yes it is - A.I. Watcher February 14 2002 21:06:30 (8)
        
        Me? Oh dear. - Altima February 14 2002 21:13:24 (7)
        
        But we deserve to be 'legal' and legitimized - Rahiim February 14 2002 21:23:06 (5)
        
        Amen - A.I. Watcher February 14 2002 21:25:14 (4)
        
        Amen = 'I believe' in Hebrew. - Altima February 14 2002 21:46:44 (3)
        
        I know - A.I. Watcher February 14 2002 21:50:52 (2)
        
        Re: I know - Altima February 14 2002 21:58:41 (1)
        
        The time for that is over - A.I. Watcher February 14 2002 22:01:37 (0)
        
        We don't NEED to be legitimized - A.I. Watcher February 14 2002 21:18:25 (0)
  - GET BENT YOU FUCKIN' BIGOTED HOMOPHOBE!!!!!!!!! - Rahiim February 14 2002 15:36:27 (12)
    - Re: GET BENT YOU FUCKIN' BIGOTED HOMOPHOBE!!!!!!!! - Athiest-AL February 28 2002 16:02:22 (0)
    - Something really interesting, Rahiim. - A.I. Watcher February 14 2002 20:34:33 (10)
      - Interesting, but not so - Altima February 14 2002 21:06:34 (9)
        
        OK, so you a homophobic agnostic - A.I. Watcher February 14 2002 21:11:03 (8)
        
        Hmm - Altima February 14 2002 21:16:00 (7)
        
        It's not a semantic argument - A.I. Watcher February 14 2002 21:20:38 (6)
        
        !! - Altima February 14 2002 21:32:36 (5)
        
        Yes, it certainly is - A.I. Watcher February 14 2002 21:35:49 (4)
        
        I'll give you 'morally questionable' - Altima February 14 2002 21:40:14 (3)
        
        I didn't say all Christians - A.I. Watcher February 14 2002 21:53:38 (2)
        
        Ahh, I see - Altima February 14 2002 22:04:31 (1)
        
        No, Christians who are not homophobic bigots - A.I. Watcher February 14 2002 22:09:23 (0)
  - We don't need to legitimize our behavior - A.I. Watcher February 14 2002 14:26:35 (0)

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